Suki: You have a strong connection to Persia and things Persian. What sparked this interest and how has it affected your life?
Kelly: The Iranian Revolution resulted in a few Persian families popping up in my area. There was a new girl in my gym class–Afsaneh. Neither she nor I liked to participate and the teacher blessedly allowed us to spend a lot of time up in the bleachers together, where she taught me to say and write a few words in Farsi. I came across more Iranian students when I was a sophomore at UALR in 1982 or ‘83. This particular group attracted me for a few reasons. They were warm, intellectual, welcoming and they loved to talk about poetry and Marxism. How could I resist that combination? At that time I was in love with languages and took at least one semester of every foreign language offered on and off campus, including Latin, Greek, Italian, French, German and Spanish. So naturally I tried to learn Farsi, but at that time there were no good books or tapes available. Fast forward to 2003. I was recently separated from my second husband (the one for whom I moved to Canada) and noticed there was a growing Iranian community in Waterloo. I decided to try once more to learn Farsi and signed up for Saturday school alongside the children of immigrants. That eventually brought me into the heart of the Iranian community, which I blogged about here. I still get a chuckle when I think about that night.
For me the biggest impact on my life has been an ability to see how slanted American news coverage is when it comes to covering issues that involve countries whose people or whose leaders do not kowtow to the American agenda. Surely my own view is also biased, as I’m not sure there is such thing as pure objectivity.
Suki: You often mention your love of movies. Name three movies you would recommend for us to watch and why.
Kelly: There are so many films considered ones you must see before you die that I have not seen yet. But now that Sylvain has subscribed to zip.ca, we are ticking them off one by one. Can you believe I’ve never seen Casablanca?
- Babette’s Feast – if you don’t mind films that go deeply and unhurriedly into character, story and landscape, you might like this film. If you are also foodie, you will love this film.
- The Piano – I think this one resonates with a lot of women, but especially with those of us who have sold our souls in relationships. We learn to survive and prostitute ourselves until we can get free, but getting free…finding our way back to our soul is more important than breath itself.
- Gandhi – because his story proves the power of non-violent resistance. I saw it at that so crucial point between childhood and adulthood. It changed the direction of my life and beliefs.
And a few just for fun: Me and You and Everyone We Know, Amelie, Smoke Signals, Talk to Her
Suki: Recently you began meditating with a local meditation group. How has this commitment impacted on your life, your spirit, your outlook?
Kelly: Do you remember the Solomon Asch study from psych 101? All of my life I’ve marched to the beat of a different drummer. Well, my brother would tell you I have my own rhythm section. There is no way to measure the impact of finding a group who validates my values, my reality. It’s sanity saving to have a group of people I can be 100% authentic with…a group with whom I never have to hold back what I really want to say. I can share anything with Sheila and Gerry and not have to worry about getting that look. You know…the look that means the other person thinks you’re a wack job.
It is very lonely when there is nobody in your world who understands why you won’t squish a bug. It is comforting and reviving beyond words when you find a someone to whom you could say, “every day I practice dying,” and the other person wouldn’t even need you to explain what you mean by that.
Suki: While reading some of your older blogposts I came upon your words “my mystical experience.” What can you tell us about this experience?
Kelly: I told the whole story here. Every once in a while I have an experience that is similar, though about 1/1000 as life rocking as the first time. It’s hard to talk about because the experiences themselves do not lend themselves well to description in words.
Suki: Fairly recently you moved from one Canadian city to another. On reflection, what was the most significant and powerful aspect of this move?
Kelly: Without a doubt the most powerful aspect of this move has been to drive me more deeply into my spiritual practice. It has made me look at my former life with distance and perspective and see what I thought was “me” was just personas. Though we have to have personas to get along in society, this move has allowed me to see them more clearly for what they are. I can now play with stripping away layers of them consciously.
The new situation has given me a chance to know myself better. It has taught me that happiness can be linked to circumstance, but we have so much more power than we ever realize to create happiness by becoming aware of ego, watching ego, and–with patience and compassion for ourselves–aligning more with that in ourselves which is not ego.
Finally, this move is about being in a relationship with Sylvain. I would like to think I am learning more than I previously have about the art of staying.
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